April 25, 2001what would be the best 12in speaker amp combo?
April 25, 2001
- One sub and an amp?
- What are you looking to spend?
- How big of a box are you willing to fit? Some 12`s need up to 3 ft!3.
- Are you looking to get as loud as you can, or just sound as good as possibe? Or a mix inbetween, like 70% spl and 30% sq?
Your question is FAR too vague to give any suggestions from. I could say an Autotek 200 watt amp and a MTX 4000 is the best (for a budget), or I could say a Treo CSX and a modified Mmats amp is the best (if you want high 140 dB readings off one 12). I`m a car stereo nut, and subs are my specialty, so help me help you!
April 26, 2001I`m not that big of a nut on car audio but I know what sounds good and what doesn`t. I`m runnin 2 12" Pioneer DVC`s in a sealed box powered by an Orion HCCA 225 @ 1ohm. All this was given to me so I can`t complain. This set-up sounds very good with Alpine mids & hi`s (Alpine fiend here). Being that you have a Bronco, 2 12`s will sound good as long as it`s set-up right. I`m going with 3 Kicker Solobaric`s in my K-5 this summer since I need some space to haul cargo. I`m not into competition just into waking up the neighbors. Good luck
April 26, 2001i have a buddy who works at a stereo store so i can get stuff for half off. i don`t want too much base but i do want it to sound better than my stock set up. i will but the speaker behind my back seat and i dont want it to take up too much room. another ? is how hard would it be to take out the speaker or speakers if i am going camping and i need the room for my stuff.
April 26, 2001Well, what brands does his shop carry that you can get?
A single ten or twelve should get you a decent amount of bass, and add nice lowend to your system. I ran a single ten forever and really liked the sound, but all my friends run large systems, so the bass got in my veins. Anyway, a single sub in a sealed box should only take up about 0.6 - 1.5 ft!3 of space (depending on the sub).
As for removal, you could put the amp somewhere (like under a seat, behind a side panel, etc) and just run the wires to the box. All you would have to do is pop the wires out of the terminals (literally takes less than a second) and pull the box out. Make sure the ends of the wires get taped so not to damage the amp with a short.
Again, list some brands and I can help ya.
April 26, 2001he can get anything
if he doesnt have it he can order it
April 26, 2001also how hard is installation?
April 26, 2001Well, you really have a huge range of choices then. It depends mostly on your budget. I personally usually prefer 12`s, you get more low bass, which gives a nice rich sound. Many people claim 10`s are better sounding than 12`s. This is simply BS. There is a billion factors that have to do with the speakers sound. I have a ported 15 that sounds better than most 10`s.
Anyway, I think one driver would be plenty for ya. Here is a list of 12`s that would work well, in order from cheapest to most costly. The number in parenthises is the number of watts (rms) that is needed to run them to thier best potential.
- MTX6000 - good sq, can get decently loud (250)
- JL Audio W-0 - basicaly the same as the 6000 perfornamce, but plays a tad lower.(200)
- Image Dynamics IDQ - very good sq, about equals the aboce 2 in spl. (300)
- JL Audio W-3 - louder and better sq than a W-0.(400)
- Infinity Perfect 12.1 - AWESOME sq, can get pretty damn loud. I personaly love this sub. It is damn good.(500)
- Audiomobile EVO - Up there with the Perfect in performance (450)
- Audiomobile Mass - a killer sub, loud and beautiful sounding (1000)
This is just the tip of the iceburg, there is a trillion subs out there, ranging from $70-$400 each. Plus an amp to run them might be $100 or $400, depending on how many watts you need.
Anyway, installs are easy! Never pay someone to do it, as they f*ck it up half the time. Plus when you do it yourself you get to learn how everything works, and you know how it is all hooked up. There isn`t much to it.
Power wire from the battery to the amp, with a fuse within 18" of the battery
Ground wire from amp to car body, less than 18" long, equal guage to power wire.
Remote from the head deck to amp. If using a stock head deck, run the remote off a switched source in the fuse box, so the amp turns on and off with the key
RCA`s from the deck to the amp. If using a stock deck then speaker level inputs are used.
Wire from sub to amp.
That is all there really is to hook up. The only other thing is building a box.
April 26, 2001I`ve got some killer Pyramid.. err. I mean Digital Designs stuff in the back of my van I`d like to sell you
April 27, 2001Damnit Tahoe, that`s what I forgot.
DD3512`s are great subs (I might get a pair), and so are the 9012`s. They take a lot of watts though. Go for the 9900 series if you want to kill yourself . LOL
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April 27, 2001hey a 10s do sound a lot better then 15s the can hit much harder but 12s are also super good if u can get a hold of anysubs you want go with an orion get a 15 if you want just one orion makes some crazy stuff they make a 10 inch sub that runs 1500 watt max soemthing like this would soudn good in a bronco cause there is not to much air space for it to run through. what also will sound good might be 2 8s marathon is a compettion brand that makes a 8 inch sub that hit deep with the right box it is 500 rms 650 max and requires 1.5 feet airspace but i dunno if they make then this year btu last year they were made and they ran for 310 each we had 16 of them in our van and it hit 164dbs so man just look into stuff before u purchase it
April 27, 2001Sorry man, but 10`s don`t sound better than 15`s or 12`s or any of those myths. The driver, box design, and crossover points/slopes have everything to do with it. Trust me, I have done TONS of installs, and 10`s are not always the best sounding. There are a billion factors that come into play with how a sub sounds, group delay and F3 are two of the biggest, and are dependent mostly on the box. I have a simple Eminence 15" driver (use to test amps) in a 5.27 ft!3 ported box that gets very loud, and sounds AWESOME. I would like to see a ten (or two) match it`s output and sq.
As for 8`s, I wouldn`t bother. Most do not play that low, and it takes 3 8`s to match the cone area of a 12. Usually a 12 will have a larger x-max as well, which means it will take 3-4 8`s to match the spl of a single 12 (of the same model) and the 8`s will not play as low. Or you could just get a single 8 with like 3 inches of throw and try to match a normal 12. In other words, these things can be done, but it is a lot less work to do the basic route.